Craig Wayne Boyd + His Next Big Hit (You Heard It Here First)

Craig Wayne Boyd is on That Nashville Girl — and he brought his next big hit with him.

From winning The Voice to building a global touring career, Craig’s journey is anything but typical. And in this episode, he gets real about everything it took to get here — the setbacks, the resets, and the moments that could’ve ended it all.

We get into:

•  His early days chasing a Nashville dream that didn’t come easy 
•  What really happens after you win The Voice 
•  Losing deals, starting over, and choosing to keep going anyway 
•  Life now — touring internationally, raising five kids, and doing it all on his terms 

And then… the moment.

Craig introduces his brand new single “She Haw” (out June 5), inspired by his wife Taylor — who also joins us for a special appearance that makes this episode even more fun.

This one is part story, part behind-the-scenes, and part “you’re hearing it here before everyone else.”

Trust me — you’re going to have this song on repeat all summer.

Connect with Craig and Taylor -- @cwbyall and @boydsrus

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

You've been everywhere except for on that episode of The Voice where they were like, Woo, all the people are coming back. Where was Craig Wayne Boyd, the winner of The Voice? Blake Shelton's best ever. They went there.

SPEAKER_05 0:11

Nor was Sundance, nor was any of us. There must be a beef. I'm not just an artist, I'm also a songwriter. If I'm gonna learn how to write songs even better, I need to go to where they write the songs. So I came to Nashville. I'm not scared to say this. I met with EMI uh publishing. The very first thing they said to me was, you plan on moving here? I had no plans. But I said I did. I was like, absolutely. They were like, well, you must be present to win. Stuck in my head that that was the case, that I needed to find a way to move here. And I came home to a note on the door that said, Don't try to find me. Those conversations helped me get through and say yes to an email that came through to go do the voice. Well, if this is the end, then it's the end. And then all of a sudden Blake hits his button and boom, I'm back on the show again. I think I'm the only one to ultimately win the show after being dropped twice.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

You were trying to make it Nashville, but Nashville kept just kicking you in the face.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

I had lost a record deal, I'd lost the publishing deal in amongst that long-term relationship gone, and it was I felt like I was on the bottom.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Were you the first to boldly go out there and say, I'm gonna go on national television in a singing competition where people are voting for me and sing a song of faith?

SPEAKER_05 1:20

That was where I was at in life. I wasn't relying on anyone else. It was like, I can do this no matter what.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

I believe in the chances, and you do too.

SPEAKER_05 1:27

Absolutely. I mean, who would have thought I would have won the voice? I mean, hey.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Now you've got this new song coming out.

SPEAKER_05 1:33

So I was able to call up a couple of my favorite writers. Heck, he has songs that he wrote for Elvis. So I called him up. He was like, dude, I got this idea. And I come in and he has his guitar riff going.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

Craig Wayne Boyd. Are you ready for this?

SPEAKER_06 1:48

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Let's do it. I love this. I haven't seen you in so long, but it feels like I saw you yesterday. Oh no. Where have you been? Is the question. That's the question. Yeah. You've been everywhere except for. You know what I'm gonna ask you because I I think everybody's been asking you. What's that? You've been everywhere except for on that episode of The Voice where they were like, woo, all the people are coming back.

SPEAKER_05 2:12

Oh, I know, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:13

Where was Craig Wayne Boyd the winner of The Voice? Blake Shelton's best ever. Sorry, Barrett. Where were you? Where were you?

SPEAKER_05 2:23

Sorry, Bad. Sorry, buddy.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

No, um NBC, I'm mad at you, but I have a feeling you're gonna tell me why. Why weren't you there?

SPEAKER_05 2:31

I wish I could. I wish I could tell you, because I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

You don't.

SPEAKER_05 2:35

I don't.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Here's my theory.

SPEAKER_05 2:38

Okay, I want to.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Because you you weren't you were on Blake's team. But Blake wasn't there.

SPEAKER_05 2:43

Blake wasn't there. Nor was Sundance, nor was any of us. Right. You know, that's what I figure happened. This is what I think is that there must be a beef.

SPEAKER_03 2:53

You think there's a beef? Oh, what if there's beef? We need some tea. I gotta find this out. You gotta find out. Um, but honestly, I actually thought you probably couldn't go because you've been everywhere all over the world. I mean, how many countries have you been in this year? Traveling and touring.

SPEAKER_05 3:10

Last year was seven different countries. That's crazy and uh we're adding a couple uh more this year.

SPEAKER_03 3:16

Oh my gosh. Okay, so you were just in Denmark. What were you doing there? Tell me about this.

SPEAKER_05 3:21

Uh, this was my fifth time, I believe. To don't quote me on that, but I believe my fifth time to to Denmark. Uh, I'm losing track at this point. Uh-huh. Um a good friend of ours, of both of ours, Blue Foley. Um, he started a uh a songwriter series called Um, sorry about that, I hit the mic.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Right. We all get excited when we talk about Blue.

SPEAKER_05 3:42

Yeah, right. If he was here, he would be jumping up and down and cheering us all on and all of that.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

Okay, blue, you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 3:50

He started a new series called uh Nashville Nights, and it's been going on for a few years now, um, which I've now become a part of that. And um, it started out taking songwriters over there. Um, I'm not just an artist, I'm also a songwriter. So it was fun to kind of sit back and tell the stories behind the songs, and uh I loved the format, so I became more involved with that. And it went from that to then going and uh bringing a band together over there of top-notch musicians and performing shows that way. And then we've taken it now to their mid-size arenas and putting on almost like a variety show. So we were keeping us artists from Nashville taking Nashville nights to the arenas uh in the Scandinavian market at the moment. Hopefully, we're gonna spread that everywhere. But um, we have sold out crowds every single night, um, and it just turned out amazing.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

Because, you know, I lived in Germany for a little bit, I've never been to Denmark, but I really feel like in general, there's there's a need for that in Europe. Like people love to go to country music shows, and there's not enough.

SPEAKER_05 4:58

Yeah, it's amazing. Like when I was in Sweden, we went all the way up in the top side of Sweden where no one goes because it's up in the Arctic Circle area. Um, and these guys were full on, look like they were from the 1800s, uh wild, wild west, and they're riding draft horses. I'm like, hey guys, you got it really close, but it's the wrong kind of horse.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

No, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 5:19

But they're Vikings, so I mean, hey, it's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

What a deal. And then you've also done a lot in Australia. So tell me about this, because man, Australia is a whole different vibe. I've never been, I won't ever go. I'm scared of snakes, but are mighty.

SPEAKER_05 5:34

No, you're sounded more pirate.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

You're kind of like half Australian at this point.

SPEAKER_05 5:38

You know, they have adopted me over there, and I love it. Uh, it's very similar, they're just a little bit uh they're not as far behind America when it comes to country music. They, of course, we they have one of our favorites, uh Keith Urban that came out of there. Um, and they have a lot of up-and-coming guys that are just absolutely amazing. And last year at CMA Fest, I don't know if you know this or not, but CMA Fest being one of our big uh like uh celebration of country music. Yeah, uh last year they had the largest uh Australian contingency, and this year they're topping that. So it's it's really, really blown up over there. And I I feel honored to be one of the guys that have helped break that uh the crossover of taking the American artist over there, not just Australian artists coming here.

SPEAKER_03 6:25

Oh, I love that. Yes, because I think you're right. We all think of it as Australian artists moving to Nashville to pursue a dream, which I totally welcome. But I think it's really cool that you are, I mean, you're essentially you've kind of created this own your own thing where you're out there taking Nashville everywhere else. And it's so fun. And you said CMA Fest, and gosh, like I just had so many flooded with memories. I don't even know how many times I've seen you at CMA Fest. I mean, you're kind of Mr. CMA Fest to me because you've been playing CMS CMA Fest for years.

SPEAKER_05 7:03

Yes. Now I I believe I'm going on. Let me think about this really quick. 18 years. And incidentally, my very first visit to Nashville was during what we called fanfare. Fanfare in in 04. So that means 22 years of every single year being at CMA Fest.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

That's incredible. Did you plan that trip? Let's go back to the beginning. Oh, we're about to go way back. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 7:34

Okay, so when you came here in 2004, did you know it was fanfare when you came? So you came for fanfare.

SPEAKER_05 7:40

I came for fanfare. You grew up in Texas, grew up in Texas. Um, I was uh looking at incidentally, I had had ran from my dad's music. Um he was the country guy, uh, country bluegrass guy. And as I opened my mouth in the rock market, you know, rebelling against dad, all my buddies were like, dude, you got too much twang. You sound like a country guy trying to sing rock. So I was like, well, this makes sense. I love country music and the lyric side of it. I want to influence country music in that direction. So I was like, well, let's if I'm gonna learn how to write songs even better, I need to go to where they write the songs. So I came to Nashville uh just to visit, see what it was like. First day in town, I met with uh I'm not scared to say this. I met with EMI uh publishing, I met with um uh who else was it? BMG. I met with those guys the very first day in town. So it was amazing to get to walk into these places, and they were the very first thing they said to me was, Do you plan on moving here? I had no plans.

SPEAKER_06 8:49

But I said I did.

SPEAKER_05 8:51

But I said I did. I was like, absolutely. They were like, Well, you must be present to win.

SPEAKER_06 8:56

Yeah, that's a great way to describe Nashville, actually.

SPEAKER_05 8:59

Stuck in my head that that was the the case, that I needed to find a way to move here. Well, incidentally, that uh was made possible by uh my situation back home, fell apart while I was here. Um I had my dad with me. Um, we pulled back into town, and um, my whole life was uh turned upside down. And uh so I was like, if I have to start over, I might as well do it in Nashville.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

So within what was going on at home when you got back?

SPEAKER_05 9:26

Um, I came home to a note. I was uh I had gotten married really young, and I came home to a note on the door that said, Don't try to find me. And I was like, wow, okay, well, I really am gonna move to Nashville. This was the two by four that I tend to have to have. Uh kind of hardheaded.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

You are. Oh my gosh. I actually think that was just God intervening.

SPEAKER_05 9:48

Yeah. I think he saved me from a lot of crazy heartache that uh was maybe on the on the way that I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Yeah. So you said, well, I'll start over in Nashville.

SPEAKER_05 9:59

Yes. So um within from that was in June. By October, I had moved to Nashville. Incidentally, we mentioned Keith Urban. In July, I opened for Keith Urban uh for one of the radio stations, uh, 99.5 the Wolf. Um I won the competition to get to open for Keith Urban, and uh that put me on uh that that trajectory of all right, I think I can do this.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Also, it put you on the winning competition this trajectory. There we go. There's that too. Yeah. But it did, it gave you the courage to say, okay, someone sees that I can do this.

SPEAKER_05 10:33

Yeah, it did. Um, and that was that's kind of been a resounding thing through my whole career, is just is believing in myself enough to throw it out there and and just taking chances. Um walking into a room with my feeble songs that I look back at and I laugh at because they were nowhere near what I'm have the ability to write now and or even what was being written at the time. But for some reason, uh Stacy Wober and Ben Vaughn and and those guys saw something in me that I didn't know was quite there yet.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

You know, it's funny that you mention your old songs because I I took a little trip down memory lane before we chatted, and I was like, gosh. And and what was really funny was we had this conversation scheduled for today, and on my Time Hop app, you know, like the memories. I'm probably the only person that still uses that app because I'm old, but anyway, Time Hop, um, sponsor the podcast. That so this morning I'm I'm flashing through my little memories. And 11 years ago today, you were playing me Opry.

SPEAKER_05 11:36

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

And I was there. Um, and that was funny that I have this video I wasn't supposed to be taking. Sorry, Opre. So I don't have your face in the video at all because I'm just like down here with my phone trying to be real cool, you know. Why did I do that? Just take the video. But anyway, I have this video, and it was 11 years ago today. So then that took me down the Craig Wayne Boyd like memory lane. And I went through some of your old songs because I I had your first CD, I think, and it you had some amazing songs. I mean, you have had incredible songs, but it was cool to see the evolution of your writing.

SPEAKER_05 12:12

Yeah, it's uh it's been it's been interesting. I've always looked at uh albums, especially the stuff that I put out, and I even went back and put out some stuff um and named them uh the early years. Um, I have early years volume one. I'm sitting on early years volume two. I've never said that out loud to anyone, but I do have that as well of a lot of the older songs, and I've always looked at them as snapshots of where I'm at in life.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:37

Um, and I've tried to put collections together in that form because I look at albums, they're collections of where you're at. There's little snip tidbits, if you will, of where you're at in life.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Totally. And I mean, I really think that was why you probably got bombarded with DMs about why aren't you on this episode of The Voice? Because that's a snapshot for all of us. Was that 2015?

SPEAKER_05 13:02

It was uh 20 the 2014, end of 2014.

SPEAKER_03 13:04

End of 2014. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:06

2015 was when it got crazy.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Okay, because I remember that was another like snapshot of like you took I American Idol just did a whole night of like songs of faith. And it that made me think of you that you were one of the first artists, were you the first to boldly go out there and say, I'm gonna go on national television in a singing competition where people are voting for me and sing a song of faith.

SPEAKER_05 13:34

Yeah, it was how I think I that was where I was at in life. It really was. Um I had spent a lot of my early years coming from Texas to Nashville, and I came here with the belief that I could do it, believing in myself, which is not wrong. No, but I wasn't relying on anyone else. It was like I can do this no matter what. And every time it would be right there for me to grasp, it'd be pulled away. And I think that was my two by fours that I again tend to have to have that said, Hey, you're not the one in charge, that someone else is in charge. And it took me a while to figure that out. And I had that moment on the voice, and it just happened to be in front of 13 million people or whatever it was.

SPEAKER_03 14:26

It's really something, because you think about that, that changed the trajectory of reality TV, of singing competitions. So you were changing your own life and you had no idea the ripple effect that you were about to have.

unknown 14:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

And I think about all of those moments before, because I witnessed some of those from the sidelines, right? Because we've been friends a long time. About I watched you get so close to things, and then no deal. And before you went on the voice, I think you've been pretty open about this, that like you'd been in a really downtime. Like you were trying to make it in Nashville, but Nashville kept just kicking you in the face.

SPEAKER_05 15:04

I had lost uh I had lost a record deal. Um, I'd lost the publishing deal in amongst that uh long-term relationship gone. And it was I felt like I was on the bottom. And every time I get kicked in the teeth like that, I don't I it usually takes me about 24 hours to maul in it for a s for 24 hours, and then I'm like, okay, what's the game plan? And that's just the way my brain works. It's like I can't sit here because if I do, it's gonna go even worse. So how do I get out of this? Um, and so I immediately went to work doing sheetrock work, and then I end up in one of the a big guy in in Nashville's, he was like, What are you doing here? I was like, I'm trying to make ends meet. That's what I'm doing. Yeah, and those conversations helped me get through and say yes to an email that came through to go do the voice. I mean, and that all happened within months of of just picking myself up and dusting off and let's go.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

I was like, I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry. But that is so powerful because you have you've never been somebody who just sits sits back. Like, I love that you said it takes you about 24 hours. I think that's such a valuable lesson in life for people to realize that you gotta get up and you've you are a hard worker. There's one thing that if anybody in this town knows you, they will say, You work. You always put in 110%. But what I'm curious about, I've never asked you this because you were in this downtime, and so you're working, and it's kind of like, okay, yeah, I can work through this, but then you get this opportunity to go in the voice. How do you get the confidence again to go do that when you just lost your record deal and you've lost your publishing deal and now you just feel like the rug's been pulled out from under you?

SPEAKER_05 16:55

It really took a lot um because there's a lot of self-doubt that comes in when you're when you're rejected. Um it was interesting for me to going on TV shows like this, they do put you through psych test. And I didn't know um there's like a thousand twelve hundred questions, and some of them are repetitive. And it was it was funny for me because um I come in and I'm I have no clue what they're gonna say. They're like I'm some psycho or something, and I'm hey your middle name's Wayne, you gotta be one of those guys now. But um, I had no clue what they would say, and they were like, Well, Craig, we have some some negative things about it. And I was like, Well, what is that? Like, well, you're positive to a fault. Like, if that's all I got, then I'm gonna take it. That means that I don't take no for an answer. If you say no, I'm gonna find a way to go around that and or or reinvent whatever I have to do to continue moving forward. And I think a lot of that now I realize is it's God. He's the one that uh that gives you the strength to keep it moving. At the time I didn't realize that though.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

I love that they saw that in a questionnaire because again, I think anyone who knows you would say that say you're positive. You were you're the most positive optimistic person.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

Like Unless in in clo in closed rooms by myself, I may not be that guy, but once I come out of that self-reflection time, then that's when I'm ready to be positive. Like, all right, let's go.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

I remember even one night, I mean, this would have probably been 15 years ago, we were chatting about life, and you'd been in these moments of ups and downs and all the things. And I just I remember even in the like thick of it, you weren't you weren't down on yourself and you weren't you weren't down on Nashville. You could have been, it could have been really easy to say, never mind. But I think it's incredible that even when you didn't know that it was God getting you through, you did you found that and then you win the voice, not without a little bit of trials and tribulations in the middle, right? Because you had to switch teams.

SPEAKER_05 19:05

Yeah, twice.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

You switched twice. This is such a fun memory lane, by the way. I'm like, this has been a minute. Um, and you've done so much since then. We're gonna be talking for four hours. This is a four-part episode now. Um, but wait, so you were on Team Blake.

SPEAKER_05 19:19

That's right. And then I was uh I was let go and then stolen by Gwen. And Gwen was the one that kind of did the makeover on me because I I had kind of let myself go and was just that scraggly uh you know outlaw looking dude. And uh she was like, Have you ever thought of cutting your hair? And I was like, I mean, yeah, you can you can cut the hair, it doesn't change who's inside, so why not? You know, why why not experiment with that? Gosh, I love that you said yes. Everything else that I that I had been trying to do wasn't working, so why not try that? You know, that was kind of my opinion of it. I was like, if I was going to go to a TV show, I wanted to go there and I wanted to learn first and foremost, because I realized that obviously I didn't know everything or I would have been already hitting it large. Um so I knew that I had to to eat some humble pie and realized that even though I'd been in Nashville for almost 11 years at that point, 10 and a half years, that um I still had a lot to learn.

SPEAKER_03 20:22

I think that that that's probably the biggest lesson if someone's sitting here listening to you and they're they're listening because they were like, well, he won this competition, how do I go win a competition? You just gave them the book. That's the playbook.

SPEAKER_05 20:35

Yeah. Yeah, but don't go in there thinking that you've that you know it all. You have to go learn. And it's like going back to school and and understand that these people are there to help you. And they have a lot of knowledge and and aspects that you don't even think about. And uh I just absorbed that.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

And what a wild year that was in your life. Oh my goodness. Like, so you're on the voice, having this epic moment and doing really well, and also you end up meeting the love of your life.

SPEAKER_07 21:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

Hi, Taylor. We're we're in the studio. Taylor's gonna come join us in a minute. But um, I mean, you had like you went from like zero to everything. You got it all back and more.

SPEAKER_05 21:21

Very surreal. It was amazing to uh there was a lot of challenges in in that because all of a sudden it went from sleeping on a friend's sofa. Thank you, Cynthia Ryan, uh, to she's so kind, to all of a sudden I'm like everywhere and my house is a bus, and I didn't even have a a a home of my own for for the first six to eight months or so. Um, to meeting the love of my life, trying to m move her from California to Nashville when I'm not even there myself. Um it was it was an intense mo uh intense time, and then uh having Jackson uh to try to balance being a father, being uh uh hopefully soon to be a husband and to be the entertainer, musician, songwriter, producer, all of those things all combined. Um it all was basically happened in a year time.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

Yeah, because how old was Jackson when you were on the show?

SPEAKER_05 22:22

Uh he was around two and a half.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Gosh, that's crazy. So yeah, I mean there was so much, and then you did, you just went straight to touring. You did some epic tours. I don't know if you noticed, we've got your uh Oh my goodness, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:34

Your Oprie. That was the first, that was the first uh Opry appearance.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

Yeah, that was your Opry debut. So if you're not watching on YouTube, I I love a good hatch print, but this one's my favorite. I took that to Germany with me when I moved to Germany.

SPEAKER_04 22:47

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

I took that because to me, that is, I will get emotional about this. Like seeing your name on a hatch print has to just be an incredible feeling. That was your Opry debut. And it has for me, and I'm I know that your fans, the y'allers are so incredible. So they're gonna also in the comments probably tell me that they feel the same as this. But like that right there has been something that has inspired me when I'm trying to get out of the funk or you're trying to chase. Well, it's true, and it does make me emotional because I just it's very rare to have somebody that has as much optimism as you have. And I'm pretty optimistic, as you know. But I, you know, when you move far away from home, you take you can't take it all. You take little things. And I took that, and thankfully it was not in a suitcase that was stolen. I had a suitcase that was stolen, and God saved that one. And so it's lived everywhere with me since 2015. And um, so I thought it was appropriate that it just becomes our podcast backdrop. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_05 23:47

Well, I'm I'm very honored with that. That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

You because that's who you are. You're the you're the guy who says yes, and you say, sure, Gwen Stefani, you can cut my hair, and then you just take this epic journey with so much grace and humility.

SPEAKER_05 24:02

And so yeah, that those times were interesting for me because I I took that chance and then it was then I was let go again. I was like, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

So after you had the highs, what happened?

SPEAKER_05 24:18

Then it was cut out from underneath me again. It it it almost emulated what I had been going through in life already. So it I was prepared for it, you know. I was like, okay, well, if this is the end, then it's the end. And then all of a sudden Blake hits his button and boom, I'm back on the show again. So it was it was an emotional roller coaster.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

Such a roller coaster.

SPEAKER_05 24:36

But at once he hit his button, I was like, all right, I have a chance at this.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 24:42

I have a chance, and that's when the tenacity kicked in. Tenacity or stupidity won.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

I don't know, but both, maybe you know tenacity. You are you the only one that's ever had that experience?

SPEAKER_05 24:52

You've got to be a small group. Um, that have won the show.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Well, they think I think the only one especially after two times of like, nope, you're off, and then you're back.

SPEAKER_05 25:01

I think I'm the only one to ultimately win the show after being picked or dropped twice.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

That's unbelievable. What did you sing on finale night?

SPEAKER_05 25:14

Um, on that one I sang uh my only, my only and hopefully the first of number one, which was My Baby Got a My Baby Has Got a Smile on Her Face.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

That's a long yes, and that was number one.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

Yes, debuted at number one.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

It was such a hit.

SPEAKER_05 25:33

It was crazy. I uh at the time I was like, I don't know if this is the song that I want to do, but once I got in the studio and got to kind of make it my own, there's the funny thing is you know how Nashville works. You get you get songs and you listen to them and you never know who's singing them. Uh I mean I've sang uh I've sang all kinds of demos I in in my life that have been cut by other artists and things like that. But it was interesting because I was like, wait, I know this voice. It was Billy Currington.

SPEAKER_06 26:05

No way.

SPEAKER_05 26:06

Billy Curringdon sang the demo on uh My Babies My Baby's Got a Smile on Her Face.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Well, that worked out.

SPEAKER_05 26:12

Yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. And so then you you go on this major tour. Meanwhile, you guys also get married, and you have um gosh, at this point I can't keep up, Taylor. I'm sorry, and I'm looking at I'm looking at Taylor for anyone who's just listening to this, going, wait, like I don't even believe that you're old enough to have a zillion children. To me, it's a zillion because I have zero. But you now have we now have five. You have five total. Sweet little baby girl comes around, and gosh, there's another picture of me drinking wine with Dakota. Like, I'm just holding them both, like they're so little. I'll find that one. Um, but you guys are just managing it all. And I have to say, we have, you know, we fast forward through these bobs and weaves, and you can kind of fill us in. But what has mesmerized me outside looking in is how you guys manage as a couple to make all these life changes, add the cutest babies in the world to the mix, dress them in the cutest clothes that all match. I don't understand how you do it. Like I can barely get myself together. And you keep this career going, even though, even after you win the voice, which I think is interesting, people think that you win the voice and it must just be all roses from there.

SPEAKER_05 27:28

Oh no. This is not true. That is when the work starts. Um, and that's probably the hardest part, is because all of a sudden it's like it's like taking a career that's like just sitting there, or you know, for some of these folks, you're just a karaoke singer and all of a sudden you're pouring rocket fuel on this career. Luckily enough, I had had that support system that I had already built for my 11 years or 10 and a half years of being in Nashville. Um, I had this support system and I kind of knew a little bit, a little bit, of what was what was to come. But I did know that it was going to be a lot of hard work right after that.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Um did Nashville, like the industry accept you as legitimate, or was it hard because now you're a reality competition star?

SPEAKER_05 28:16

I think the stigma was still there a little bit. Um, but it that is around the time 2014-2015 is when the stigma started wearing off.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 28:25

Um, and it became, it was like, okay, well, they're doing a little bit of our job. They're they're helping us find these these artists.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:33

Um, but I think the stigma was still, it was still there a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

It feels like that was still kind of in the mix of that. I mean, I know at that point you've got Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson doing incredible things, but it wasn't it wasn't the norm.

SPEAKER_05 28:46

Yeah, it was still, it was still a little um boutique, if you will.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

Yeah. Um and did you ever feel like people, I mean, you did have the bass, which was good. You had been playing your own shows for a decade plus.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

I've been playing every honk-tonk from my North Dakota all the way to Key West Florida. Yeah, the other directions of the people knew you knew how to perform.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

That wasn't a question, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:08

But it was there was a little bit of this, especially with with cohorts and uh fellow artists, that there was a little bit of this, like you kind of took a little cheat route. And it was like, no, not really. No, it there was just as much work, and again, it was almost like getting free school.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Yeah, yeah, like so.

SPEAKER_05 29:27

I so I took some a little bit more education on how to how to make these things work a little better. Um so I I never I never let that bother me. Like, hey.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Yeah, but you don't let things bother you, it's amazing. Because I think that that's really cool. That I mean, I I guess, you know, all of a sudden you're probably getting in writers' rooms that you hadn't been in. And so now you're introducing yourself to Nashville as a new, a new Craig Wayne Boyd. Same, but now different because you get a record deal with the voice, right? And so now you're writing a new album, you're on the road, you've put together an amazing band, and and this is the other thing, and I I pause because I'm I'm not sure how to ask this, but I'm gonna ask it anyway.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Just ask it.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

I'm gonna ask it. I think that people, me included, we assume that you leave the voice with a lot of support. I'm gonna guess that maybe I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

Um, I'm gonna think about how to answer this question.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Because it's such a great platform, right? We're not gonna knock that in any way. However, I wouldn't have to do that.

SPEAKER_05 30:45

I do get the question a lot of uh if you had it to do over again, would you do it? Oh good question. And I would say yes. Um, the time be because of the experience that I that I was able to gain from that.

SPEAKER_04 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:59

Um the timing of the season that I was on, I think was was perfect uh in the grand scheme of how the show has gone and things of the sort. Um, so yeah, I wouldn't do it again. Um so far as the aftermath of that, yeah, it was it was uh a lot more challenging than I expected.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

I think that's a really good way to say it. Because what I kind of am curious about is my guess is, you know, at this point, you win the show, but the show is based in LA.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

There was uh the support system that was in Nashville was not put together.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

That's yeah, that makes sense. So you're kind of dropped off back in town. And you're like, hey, good luck.

SPEAKER_05 31:43

Here I am.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:44

And uh there was a there was a lot of that that was like, okay, here I am. But again, that's part of it. They're not handing you something for free, they're handing you an opportunity that you have to go out and expound upon.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

Um and a lot of people don't.

SPEAKER_05 32:01

Yeah, nothing is nothing in life is exactly free. No, it never is. There's always something tied to it, and you have to know that that's again, when I say that's the year that the hard work started, that's the year the hard work started.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

Yeah. It's almost like before that you were kind of, I don't want to say playing musician, but then once you've been put on a stage like that, and everyone sees you as Craig Wayne Boyd, the artist that won the voice. And by the way, you won the voice because your voice is next level. It's ridiculous, it's unfair. And so now you've got that weight, you gotta carry it. You you gotta carry it big, proud, loud, like you you gotta own it.

SPEAKER_05 32:48

But going back to what I was saying, like it's like pouring rocket fuel on a career and it shoots way up in the air, and you know whatever goes way up is going to come down. So you have to build that that support system that was you know already there, but you need to build that even higher and hope that you don't land back down where you're at, or things that go up, come down. Sometimes they can go further down. So you you hope and pray that you can build that system so that you build a platform that you're not landing at the same spot that you were at. You're still a little higher, you're a couple of rungs up, and then you want to build from there again.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

That's such a good analogy, and that is life. It's the way it goes. We all have to, you know, bob and weave. Yeah. What goes up must come down. But you gotta build it. So you have been building it, and now I mean it's incredible because, like, we'll go back now to the beginning of this, where you are spending your days, you're touring pretty consistently. I mean, you're well, if you did seven countries in a year, I don't mean that's hard to do and stay home.

SPEAKER_05 33:46

Yeah, exactly. This is true.

SPEAKER_03 33:48

Yeah, but you're headlining festivals, you've been writing new music, so you've got new music coming out.

SPEAKER_05 33:55

Been working on that um for the past uh year or so. Uh, we got hung up for a second with the with the last album, and we finally got that out uh incidentally. Uh called it tidbits because I was catching up on my uh on where I was at in life.

SPEAKER_07 34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:11

And you know, country music is is is one of my favorites, and the reason being is because it's I call it the three F's. It's faith, uh, family, and fun.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

By the way, a lot of people, if they started the conversation by saying the three F's, I'd be like, oh no, where are we going? Where are we going? I was not worried at all. Thank God. I was like, I don't have to worry about this one. Yours was I was like, this will be fine, but I didn't know what they'd be. Okay, so tell me again, because they're good.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

Faith, family, and fun.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_05 34:41

Um, and I incorporated a lot of that in the writing of this of tidbits, and that's continuing on in this album. Um, it's kind of a that was a a new starting point for me because I had a lot of my previous albums had been the heartbreak that I've been through in life and and working through all of that. You know, writing songs is therapy.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Yeah. So uh and then you guys give us a place to go for therapy. So thanks for that.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

Well, you're you're very welcome. Um, but yeah, so that's been fun to uh now explore uh where I'm at in life now with with five kids and a beautiful wife.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

Five kids. Jackson is uh thirteen, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 35:21

And then 13 going on 19.

SPEAKER_03 35:25

Okay, first of all, it won't be long before Jackson Wayne Boyd is on this podcast.

SPEAKER_05 35:28

Oh, this is true.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

That guy Apple did not fall far from the tree, as they say.

SPEAKER_05 35:34

Uh hopefully he's on a whole different tree. That's what I'm hoping. Because it it seems like uh his trajectory is much higher than I was at his age.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Well, hopefully it's because you've given him all the tools, you know? As long as he continues to listen.

SPEAKER_05 35:49

Oh, he's so talented.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

The kid is so talented, unbelievable. Um, and I love when you guys do things together. And you've done that's fun too, because you and Taylor and Jackson have done, you're like the national anthem family at this point.

SPEAKER_05 36:03

We are, and we're adding uh uh God bless America to the uh to the to line up. We're doing that um, I believe in the fall. Oh my gosh, where uh uh Chicago the Mets, right? Cubs. Oh there we go. We can edit that.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

So I'm gonna ask you again. Um, yeah, that's the fun thing. We can edit it. So Jack will edit that. Jack's not here, he's in Atlanta, and we talk to him like he's here. Um okay, so you're doing God Bless America in the fall.

SPEAKER_05 36:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

Where?

SPEAKER_05 36:33

I believe we're doing it at uh the Chicago Cubs. There we go. I got it.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

Chicago Cubs. Yeah, this is epic.

SPEAKER_05 36:41

Yeah, it's really fun.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Oh, that's gonna be fun. This is so fun.

SPEAKER_05 36:44

Little 13-year-old kids getting to do it with us.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Is he so excited?

SPEAKER_05 36:47

Oh, yeah, super fun.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

I mean, he's playing some good stages on his own. He is really doing well, but your harmonies, the three of y'all, it's so good.

SPEAKER_05 36:56

Yeah, just just wait. I I know that I'm I'm like just a few years away from having the the Boyd's R S full band.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

Yes, so we have do any of the other kids have musical aspirations? I mean, I know we've got little Miss Taco Bell. Wait, so for people who don't know, give them that trick. Or do we want to wait on Miss Taylor for that one?

SPEAKER_05 37:16

We could we could go ahead and share that one. Miss Taco Bell. Yes, yeah, she's uh she's the youngest, and uh she's the most loud, and uh she believes in herself. She does.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

I want the belief that she has.

SPEAKER_05 37:31

She writes songs every single day.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

How did that come up, the Taco Bell thing?

SPEAKER_05 37:35

She was hungry. And she wanted to tell dad that she wanted to go to Taco Bell. And so she started singing it. I was like, here's a microphone, let's hear that.

SPEAKER_03 37:44

And how many views does that have now?

SPEAKER_05 37:46

Uh it's in the uh, it's in the what I what is that zillions? It's in like almost 10 million, I believe, somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

If I play it in this microphone, will it work? If I play a TikTok in this microphone, will it work?

SPEAKER_06 38:03

Uh if you ask the if you play a TikTok in the microphone, yeah?

SPEAKER_03 38:09

All right.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Pretty well.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

Pretty well. I'm gonna we okay. We're gonna try something here. We're trying something that we have not done because this is hilarious. Taylor, are you Taylor Boyd on TikTok?

unknown 38:21

Boyd's R S.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

Boyd's R S, obviously. I'm embarrassed that I asked a dump.

SPEAKER_05 38:25

We're already setting this up.

SPEAKER_03 38:27

Boyd's R S has been epic forever. Here are the Boyds R S. Okay. Little Miss Taco Bell has 1.6 million views.

SPEAKER_05 38:55

And where I got where I got that larger number is because if you include that with the Facebook and the Instagram.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:02

And then what was wild about it is now you've gone there and see how many people use that to mime to.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Oh, I want to do that.

SPEAKER_05 39:11

Oh, I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

Yes, they can use the audio. Well, for starters, the way she holds that last note is worthy of American Idol immediately. Um, but she's serious about it and she looks so cute. They're just cute. So everybody follow Voids R Us on all the channels because it is it's so fun to watch. And and then sometimes y'all just have these bad the family moments that you guys have that I just am like, when is the reality show coming?

SPEAKER_05 39:39

Yeah, we have the family comedian, Boston.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_05 39:43

Why we named him boss is beyond me because he is truly thinks that he's the boss.

SPEAKER_03 39:49

God knew. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:51

Um he he's uh he's quite the the ladies' man.

SPEAKER_03 39:56

Okay, so Jackson is 14. And then we have Little Miss Dakota. Yes, and she's how old now? Give it the lineup for everybody.

SPEAKER_05 40:04

Um let me get this right because they all had birthdays. So she's 10.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

The birthdays confuse me in your family because you all got some December going on.

SPEAKER_05 40:10

Exactly. It's December 31st, the same as me.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Okay. So she's 10.

SPEAKER_05 40:14

Yes, she's 10. Graydon is eight.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

Oh gosh, that doesn't seem possible.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

Okay. Uh Boston is six.

SPEAKER_03 40:24

Going on uh 25.

SPEAKER_05 40:26

Yes. And then uh Blakely is four. She turns five um in a few days.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Oh, that one you're in trouble.

SPEAKER_05 40:37

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

Yeah, what's Dakota into?

SPEAKER_05 40:40

Dakota is my little piano player. I she will be so embarrassed if I told anybody this, but I'm gonna she won't see it for a few years, maybe.

SPEAKER_07 40:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 40:50

Uh it's been one of the cutest things ever. She has been every single night, she's in her bed with her iPad, with her headphones plugged in, singing at the top of her lungs. I don't know if she realizes that she's singing as loud as she is. And it is one of the most beautiful and amazing things because she's working on her own voice. She sees her brothers doing it, and so she's like, I'm gonna keep up, I'm gonna catch up. And she is, and it sounds amazing.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

That's sweet, baby. I love it. Uh and what about Gray? What's Gray?

SPEAKER_05 41:18

She's uh she's probably she's the shyest of the group and the most the the prim and proper one.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

But she's always had that going for her.

SPEAKER_05 41:27

Graydon, uh, I uh was going through his his uh journal for school. Sorry, buddy. And uh he says that what he wants to be is he wants to be a famous bass player, and the first thing he's going to do is come knock on daddy's door to let him know. I about lost it. Yeah, I'm about to lose it right now. Um I've never seen that tenacity in someone that I personally I feel like that I have.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:57

I see it in that kid. He uh he comes home every single day and throws his backpack into his cubicle and runs to the music room and he's in there playing bass until I tell him, hey dude, you gotta stop. Um and he's just progressing so quickly. He uh I think his goal right now is he wants to be his brother's bass player.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

Yeah, he'll be there soon.

SPEAKER_05 42:19

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

I really the family reality show needs to happen. I would like to be a producer on the show. I'm just gonna go. Well, let's let's figure it out. Yeah, I just don't understand why they haven't come knocking yet, but like let's make the timing happen on this where I can help you because this would be so fun. Y'all are the most fun to watch on on social media.

SPEAKER_05 42:37

And thanks to Taylor for doing that stuff because I'm the worst at doing it. If she holds the camera and tells says, ask me a question, I can do it.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Can I ask you a question about this?

SPEAKER_05 42:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

Tell me about the dirt and the diamonds. What in the world? Okay, so Craig Wayne Boyd, what did you think was gonna happen?

SPEAKER_05 42:55

I thought I was gonna find a diamond.

SPEAKER_03 42:57

God bless you, you are the most optimistic person in the world. The voice was right.

SPEAKER_05 43:02

Okay, so we have this in common that our families are from Arkansas.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Yes, we're big story.

SPEAKER_05 43:07

And since I was barely young enough to pay attention to the road signs, I have seen this sign for the creator of diamonds.

SPEAKER_07 43:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 43:16

And I saw this every Thanksgiving on the way to my grandparents' house. And I've always wanted to go, and I've driven past that sign, I dare say at least 800 times in my life. And I've never been able to stop. And this last trip through that direction, I was like, you know what? I'm going. So I was like And you had all the kids with me. I had all the kids with me. We go out to this field that's probably no different than my front yard.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

You're like literally Chevy Chase in this moment.

SPEAKER_05 43:48

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 43:49

We call him Chevy, Chevy, I don't know, but you're him.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

I was like, kids, we're gonna go have fun. Why are you not having fun? We're digging in the dirt. You want to dig in the dirt all the time at home, and you don't want to dig dirt here. It was like it lasted five minutes for them.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

There's zero chance that any other woman on this planet was meant for you. Just wouldn't throw this out there. Because that video, that one doesn't have five million views. People are just missing out because Taylor just sitting there in the dirt. Our beautiful, perfect Taylor is sitting there, and she's like, We have the same dirt at home. But daddy wanted sitting for diamonds, and so here we are. Everybody having fun? It's like real life. It's just so real.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

It was real.

SPEAKER_03 44:37

It's so real.

SPEAKER_05 44:38

I mean, I I had I had fun.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

I'm so glad you got to do that.

SPEAKER_05 44:43

Now I know that you can't find diamonds in the middle of Arkansas.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

I know we're gonna get calls from the state park. They're gonna be like, you know, somebody once found the biggest diamond, and this is why you do it. Because they do it. Exactly. There's a chance. There's a chance. And I believe in the chances, and you do too.

SPEAKER_05 44:58

Absolutely. I mean, who would have thought I would have won the voice? I mean, hey.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

I know. I actually think all of us who watched you though, the minute you were on that show was like, Well, you're the obvious choice. But the thing about the world that's wild is that's not how it always works. And and you could truly have the best voice on the season. We've got a guy on this season of our podcast who's on American Idol, and I think he's just one of the best voices I've heard in a long time, and he's adorable, and um, he didn't make it past like you know, Hollywood week. And that's just how it goes sometimes. It has nothing to do with his voice.

SPEAKER_05 45:35

I'm gonna think how I uh how to say this, but this is just my belief. Um I think there are throughout time in the music industry, there have always been characters. And you cast for those characters because that's what America wants to see, that's what the world wants to see. And those characters can change at times. I've uh for me and the voice, I was not the character that they were looking for. They may have thought I was something different, but once I was there, I created the character, or actually it didn't create the character, it was just me. It's who I am as a person. Yeah, you're the realistic cat. But that character became something that was resounding, and you can go through and for me, looking back at like country music in general, you have you have the possum who definitely was his character, and there's been those characters that have continued on Merle Haggard. You have Lefty for Zell, you've got I mean, the even from like uh for me, the Merle Haggard to the lefty, uh then you've got George Strait that followed that character that that really hit it. And there was aspects of that care of that same character, but then they progressed or uh uh established it even more. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 46:55

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_05 46:56

So I think uh the real I said all of that to say that reality TV works just the same.

SPEAKER_03 47:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:02

And so those if that's may not be the character that they're looking for for the year.

SPEAKER_03 47:06

That's right. And it it doesn't define anything about your career.

SPEAKER_05 47:10

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 47:10

And actually, I think you know, you're an interesting case too, because you used it as a catapult for something else. Like you have now, um, I love, I mean, listen, we're all hoping that you'll do a Christian album at some point. I see.

SPEAKER_05 47:23

That's in it's in my near it's in my near future.

SPEAKER_03 47:26

I hope so, because I keep saying album. I mean, you know, just give us the singles. We're good with that too. Um, but I really I think you you have been able to stay so grounded because you guys have found an incredible church and you lead worship at your church now, right?

SPEAKER_05 47:41

I do, yeah. That's uh that's something that has happened over the past uh little over a year that I stepped into that role. It was something I was not looking for.

SPEAKER_03 47:52

I can't imagine just showing up at church one day and Craig Wayne Boyd's leading the service. Well, that's awesome. I'd be like, yeah, I'm here for this.

SPEAKER_05 48:00

It's uh it's fun for me in a lot of ways. Um, because I get to take off that performer hat and I get to, as I did on the voice, I put took away the performer hat and just gave honor where honor was due. And that's something that I get to do every single week. And on top of that, something that I have always enjoyed is harmonies and uh arranging vocals and experimenting with instrumentation and things like that. Hence the reason I I I had a sabbatical during COVID where I had a vocal group that I was uh a part of, and that really uh scratched that itch, if you will, of putting harmonies together and and creating something that is taking sums of parts and putting them together and becoming one.

SPEAKER_03 48:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:55

Um that was what was beautiful about uh the Texas Hill project for me.

SPEAKER_03 48:59

And y'all crushed it on your harmonies. You were so good.

SPEAKER_05 49:02

That itch is now being scratched by being able to help train people that are coming up that maybe not believe in themselves as singers, but have beautiful voices and and helping them believe in themselves, and then on top of it, give honor or honors do. That's a it's a beautiful situation to be in.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

It's beautiful. And I've I've seen you know some online videos, I've seen some live streams where you guys are leading worship and Taylor's up there with you, and it it really it is incredible that it's not performative and in it's in any way. And I think that that's something that's really special about you is that you do have you have Craig the Performer, like and you're an entertainer. I mean, it's a if you've never been to a Craig Wayne Boyd show, it's really something, it's so much fun. Um, there was one summer where I think I saw you guys like every weekend. It was a blast. I mean, we had so much fun to each other. So fun. Um, but it's very different. And I love that you can you can see the difference that you really are just, you know, honoring God in a way that you're like, this is this is what's built this life that I have. It's so it's so powerful. I hope that other people will, you know, I I love that people know you for the voice. I love that they know you for your music. But the real thing is knowing you for you. And I think that's why it was like I was so excited to have you sit on this podcast and talk about what you're doing now because I want people to to really understand the journey and what it takes to make music your career.

SPEAKER_05 50:35

Yeah, it's there's a lot of going with the flow, and then there's a lot of of believing in yourself. There's a lot of there's a lot of things that that go into it, I guess.

SPEAKER_06 50:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:48

Um but ultimately staying grounded and finding that grounding. Um for me, that was first and foremost uh reestablishing my relationship with God. And then also finding a woman that believes in me and and and trusts my instincts, but also will be a sounding board as much as I don't like it sometimes. Um will be that voice of reason, like, hey, maybe we maybe you shouldn't do it this way. Yeah, and uh some most of the time I take that advice, most of the time. Not always.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

Well, you know, we have the term mommeters, and I don't know what the word is for a wifeager.

SPEAKER_05 51:30

Oh, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Is that it? Is a wifeager? And I will tell you in booking this podcast, your wife should be everyone's wife a jerk. I would I would like to hire you. I sent her voice note because I love voice notes, and I was like, um excuse me, you are iconic. Like it was the most thorough document of like, here's what we're doing, here's where we've been, here's where we're going, here's what's coming out. And I was like, you just made my life so easy. And I mean, I know you, so I was already like this will be a breeze, but it was just really something. So it's really fun that you guys have managed to make music your business together. And now you've got this new song coming out. Let's talk about this new song, and then we're gonna, you're gonna play it. And then after you play it, we're gonna have Taylor come and y'all are gonna sing another one. Because I wanna, I need the both of you. Um, but you the new song, Sheeha. Yes, I needed to know about it. Because it's inspired by our sweet little Taylor.

SPEAKER_05 52:25

It is, it's uh going back, I'll start uh back just a little bit. Um for me as a songwriter, I've I've tried to take songs in and kind of put my own little twist on them, if you will. Um, one of my inspirations was uh like from Where the Greengrass Grows, uh Tim McGraw. That song right there is the epitome, in my opinion, of how to write a country song. Um it's talking about a small town and it's um I'm from a map dot a stop sign on the blacktop. I'm like that is so vivid. And uh and for me, that's something I've always strive I I strive to continue to strive to uh to put those moments in songs, uh, and then come and be creative uh of how to say something a little different. And the idea of she-haw came from uh conversations about you know crazy things going on in the world, and it was like, you know what? I'm a hee-haw, and I have a beautiful she-haw, and I got five ye hauls running around, and it was like it was just being funny. I was like, oh wait, Google. Has this ever been said before? And no one had it, so it was like, all right, let's let's trademark this really quick. So I was able to call up a couple of my favorite writers. Um, one was actually the first time I ever wrote with him. Um Big Al Anderson. Oh yeah, uh he has all this, you know, all the big songs with Jeffree Steele. Uh I mean heck, he has songs that he wrote for Elvis.

SPEAKER_03 53:59

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_05 54:00

For sure. Um, he was in a band called NRBQ. This is how much I know about the guy. He was truly a hero, and I found out that he was gonna be in the room uh with James LeBlanc, who he and I have written. Uh I mean, we go back to we've we figured out we've written 18 years we've been writing songs together.

SPEAKER_03 54:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 54:19

Um the very first song we wrote together was Some Bridges Don't Burn.

SPEAKER_03 54:23

I love that song so much.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

But we have again so many songs that we've written together. So I call him up. I'm on my way down to Muscle Shoals, Alabama, and uh it was like, dude, I got this idea. And I come in and he has his guitar riff going. It's signature Al Anderson is like, all right, this is gonna be awesome. And uh going into that thought that I had about you know, trying to say stuff that is different. She's like whiskey from a wine glass, paper plate caviar.

SPEAKER_03 54:52

Oh, I love this.

SPEAKER_05 54:55

Like describing things in a different way, and then it just immediately puts you in like you can imagine this person, you know. Yeah, and the whole time I'm talking about my she-haul.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Your she-haul. It's so cute. I love this. Okay, will you play it for us?

SPEAKER_05 55:09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 55:09

Let's do it. Okay, the guys are gonna sound check you a little bit, but I gotta ask you about this guitar because it's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_05 55:16

This right here is uh so on the voice, I played uh Gibson guitars. Um I'm always thinking about the the little details. And for me, I had taken one of the Gibsons um from the I think it was from 68 to 71, Gibson made the Everly Brothers a guitar that had the short pit guards on it. Most of theirs had this big, huge uh pit guard that went all the way down. Um, which like after that, uh the Green Day guys used that uh Armstrong, Billy Joe Armstrong. He played one of the Everly Brothers guitars that became his signature guitar. Um but I liked the short pit guards, um, and I didn't see anyone else using those. The little mustache or I mean they actually it looks like a like a 60s haircut. It totally does. Yeah. So I I liked that, and um, that was one of the little details on the voice that I had those guitars. And um afterwards I was approached by a few different guitar companies about uh putting those out, but I wanted the price point to be where fans could actually get one. And so I talked to Dean Guitars, and so we made these signature guitars. We have the the one in the the natural, and then we have a black one as well.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

That is amazing. And uh I love that you made them attainable for people. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 56:39

I thought that was important um to to make them not only sound good, but make them affordable so people could actually get one. And luckily enough, because of that, there's about 15 or 20,000 of these around the world.

SPEAKER_03 56:52

I want one. I've got to go find one of those on eBay.

SPEAKER_05 56:54

Every once, yeah. I was gonna say, every once in a while they pop up on eBay, which is great.

SPEAKER_03 56:59

All right, let's hear it. She haul.

SPEAKER_05 57:01

She haul.

SPEAKER_04 57:11

She's whiskey from a wine glass, paper plate cabinet, the circle, Texas, drink of water. Beating on this guitar calls me her hee-how. Talking about my she all.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Okay, I already love this a lot. She's sorry I messed up. I'm like, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Okay, keep going. I gotta video you. I gotta get the first video of this song in the world.

SPEAKER_05 57:39

All right, I'm ready. All right, we ready? Yeah. Here we go. Let me start again. Here we go. One, two, three, four.

SPEAKER_04 58:02

She's whiskey from a wine glass, paper plate caveat. Loves her tall Texas drink of water beating on this guitar. Calls me her e-haw. Talking about my She-Haul. She got every red in a crane, and as she's scootin' across the floor. My heart stopping hockey talking. Just keep me wanting more. My little she-haul. My little she-haul. Well now, she's my little blonde hair blue. I California dream. Country as a conservine, but still an LA queen. She's all gonna homosexy if you know what I mean. Can I get an amen, y'all? Oh, for my little she-hawn. She's classic, kinda sassy, but sorry, boy, she's on mine. My high heel, heart it's hard, certified in your mind. My little she-haul. My little she-haul. Well, she's my little blonde and blue-eyed California dream. Country as a conjugate, but still an LA queen. She's unclear homosexy. If you know what I mean, can I get an Amen? Y'all oh, my little G-H. Oh, that's right. Oh, where's Joshua and here's my favorite part though, right here? Well now, last call, pack it all up, take it back to the house, let that black slip, yep, slide all the way to the ground. Come on, she-Hall.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:11

Show me, She-Haul.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:15

Hold on a cheese, my little Bonnet blue like California dream. Come on, dream as a conduct, but still an LA queen. She's hungry, homosexy. If you know what I mean. Can I get an A-Men, y'all? Amen. No, I said, Can I get an Amen, y'all?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

Everybody.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:36

My little She-Ho.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:49

She-Ho, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

I love this song. I can already see the music video.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:55

Oh, I know, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

Oh, yeah. Are you ready for a music video? We're gonna get Taylor up here in a minute and we're gonna talk about this. This is such a great song.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:04

And when do we get this song?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:06

This is coming out June 5th.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

Right in time for CMA Fest.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:11

That's right. Right in time for CMA Fest. It'll be uh pre-order a couple of weeks before that. So everyone, please go pre-order. Yes. This is how we get songs to chart.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:21

So we got a pre-order, pre-save, all the things.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:25

Pre-order, pre-save. If you do that, that is how you build it up and you can get to number one right off the bat.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:31

Okay, this is good to know. Y'allers are on it.

unknown 1:01:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

Listen, as an original, an OG yawler, you know we got you. Um, your fans are amazing, by the way. Do you?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:41

Like the y'allers are the y'allers have been with me from the beginning to right now. And it's uh, I don't think this uh journey would be possible without all of the fine folks that have helped me out. Um, and if I start naming names, somebody's gonna get mad. You can't just know who you are.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:57

They know who they are. And you know what? I gotta say this too. What's amazing about the y'allers is you're number one, they support you like nothing else, but then the y'allers support other y'allers like nothing else. It's so cool, and I've been so grateful too. And I won't name names, but y'all know who you are. For the ones who like have been here since the beginning of this podcast, because we were all at the beginning with you. Yeah, it's so cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:19

It's uh it's wild how things like that happen in the in life, and it doesn't always happen that way for everyone. Um, I'm just very blessed that uh to have a group of folks that are not only friends but believers in in what I'm doing, the music that I'm putting out, and they've stuck with me and I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:36

Yeah. Oh, they're just gonna die when this one comes out. So we're gonna pre-save and then yeah, just in time for CMA fest. This is so exciting.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:45

Very exciting. Um hopefully we'll be working on a music video for this very soon, and we're gonna do it all, pull out all the stuffs.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

We gotta have all the things. Okay, so while the guys are gonna put a chair in here for our amazing Miss Taylor Sheeha. Come on in. We're gonna pull a chair in, and um, I'm gonna keep telling y'all about this cool drink that we have. I actually have two of them today, but this is I gotta get you one of these before you leave. I have a bottle for you guys. This is from Ophelia. It is Flavors of Mexico City, and this is a new restaurant in 12 South. Have you heard of it yet? It's brand new. This is the aguas frescas. I'm probably not saying it right, but it's there's a hibiscus and this is a cucumber lime, and they're amazing.

unknown 1:03:28

Cucumber lime sounds like it's up my eye.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

It's delicious. I think it would also be good with tequila, but right now it's just water. But anyway, thank you, Ophelia, for the sponsorship. And now Jack's just holding a really heavy chair and would like me to stop talking. Come on in.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:08

Might be when the sun comes on and you're lost in the radio. I don't know when, but all I know is my lips are gonna live on your lips, your hands come. You can get it fun with you. I'm gonna kiss you somewhere in there. Oh, somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:44

My happy fast when you make that stuff. My feeling first kissing, you finally wake up now.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:56

Sitting in your drive. Maybe that's alright. If it takes all night, my lips are gonna land on your hands gonna slide in my window, it's gonna return it. Oh my god. Between the slide, and we're coming back on the fun wind. I'm gonna kiss you. My lips are gonna land on yours. Your hand's gonna slide on mine. One is gonna lead the one more, one more's gonna turn into mine.

unknown 1:05:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:55

It's gonna slide. It's gonna lead the one.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

Oh y'all, that takes me back in time too.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:42

You were around for all last time.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:44

All of it. It was so fun. What year did what was that year?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:47

That would have been uh 2016. 16.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:52

No, no, no, end of 2017.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:54

2017? Yeah.

unknown 1:06:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:57

Keeping the birthdays. You know the birthday drill with the December's and the January. It's yes, everybody's so close.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:03

And I was trying to remember because I wasn't there. Yeah. And I would have been. So that makes sense. 2017, because I was in Germany. Yeah. So I had moved. Oh, we got to get your mic back. Oh. Um. Yeah. And that's wild. So, and that's also one of my favorite videos ever, because I have a video of the Craig Wayne Boyd singing Amanda.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:27

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:31

No way. I love it. It's the closest I've ever come to somebody like writing a song about me. Um, and you sing that better than the original. Let's just be real. Let's be real. That's almost like that. I know you can't say it, but I can say it. Um, but yeah, that was the the German send-off was end of 2016. And so this is right. This would have been a year later. So I was not there. I had to watch the videos, but I think your mom snuck a video for me. Yeah, she did.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

She did.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:57

Yeah. There you go. Wow. Incredible. Okay, so this year we've got CMA Fest coming up.

unknown 1:08:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:05

And are the y'allers going to be able to see you at CMA Fest this year?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:09

Yes. We're going to be uh, of course, we have made a tradition of uh being at the Roper booth uh with Stetson Roper. So we're gonna be there. Um go to the website, you can see where we're gonna be on those. And there's quite a few other uh appearances that we're gonna be doing, and we're talking about doing some uh some live music as well um in a few of the honky tonks down there on Broadway. So we're gonna be around. Uh I'm very excited to be out there. And again, I mentioned early on in the podcast about uh the Australian contingency. We have some good friends, uh Jared Wrigley, who just won uh a big uh singing competition over there. It was so fun to see that happen. The first time that I was out in Australia, he and I chatted after a show, and he was like, Man, I think I want to try this out. And I was like, you know, just gave him some advice. And then it was amazing to be there this past January and to see that dream come to fruition for him, uh, from talking to him after a show to then winning the whole competition. Uh, it was really neat. He's gonna be here uh at CMA Fest playing the Riverfront stage, which was my first stage to play.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:18

Um for uh one of the larger stages. So it's really cool to see that happen as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:22

What's his name?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:23

Jared Wrigley.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:24

Jared Wrigley. Okay, we're gonna check him out. I gotta say, you two together have become quite the mentoring couple for um other people, other songwriters, artists who are doing the reality competition life. I mean, I think that's really cool. You know, I had, thanks to Taylor, we got Aaron on the show, Aaron Nichols, who's just phenomenal. But would you say, I mean, I think that's fair to say that y'all have become, you're like the mom and dad of the reality show, too. You already have five children, but you've just added a few more.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:54

Oh, that's funny. I've never really thought of it that way, but um, you kind of sort of, and it's it comes from from my heart and from her heart as well, of the struggles and the just not knowing when you're going through the situations. You know, a lot of these guys do have the misnomer that it's all gonna be there and it's not. And so we're trying to help just build a support system for the folks that are that are taking a chance on themselves and putting putting themselves out there in front of the whole entire world. Yeah, um, and then they realize that it's not they don't have that support system there. So we're trying to create that system, and we don't know where that's gonna lead at, lead to um in the future, but right now we're just out there to support folks that we believe in, that we think um have taken a chance on themselves and we want to help them uh achieve their goals.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:48

Yeah, exactly. And we at this point we've been doing this together for a decade and we've learned so much. And we've had all the highs and all the lows you guys talked about. And I just feel like if we can save one or two from a little bit of those low lows or those, you know, learn a lesson here and there when you take advantage of the high highs. Take advantage of the high highs, yeah. So that's kind of where we're at. I just yeah, we're helping when we can with our crazy schedules and all the things. But that yeah, honestly, we've really loved talking and sitting with people. We try and schedule a meeting a week with some different, whether it's a couple or an artist, and just be like, how what what do you need? How can we help? Let's talk about it. Where are we going?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:24

Yeah, I mean, I I don't think I'm I'm wrong in in uh it's not gonna hurt anything if I say this, but um I was I got woke up at uh about 3 30 a.m. this morning from uh one of the voice winners of Norway. Oh wow that um we were helping he wanted to come here to America and be able to play shows, and he's phenomenal. We have a single coming out together. Uh he and I did a duet together um called Talk to Mid Texas. Um but uh he called me at three or messaged me at 3:30 a.m. because he's in he's in Norway. Yeah um and he just got his uh visa approved um to be able to do that, and he just wanted to send me a thank you so much for all the advice and the the letters and the the help of navigating that system for him to be able to do that. That's amazing. To me, that's uh I broke out in tears this morning. Yeah, what a thing to wake up, yeah. We just want to see good people. Yeah, you want to see good people succeed, and that's one of those guys, you know. It's like he he's arguably one of the biggest things in Norway, but he wants to bring it to America, so let's help him do that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:33

Manda, he's also single and very handsome and tall. So we need to talk about the fame. Taylor's got all the boxes covered.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:41

She's like, okay, I'm gonna book some podcast guests. He's talking about it. I'm like, wait, yeah, okay, let's talk about that later. Thank you for thinking of me. I'm really happy about that. I need you. Um you're always thinking of others, Taylor. But you actually are, and it's funny that you say that because I was just thinking about the times that we've helped each other out, and it's so special to me that, like you and I, I mean, we go back in our own right where when you were booking models, yeah, and I had a corporate career and I wanted to do something out of the box. Yeah. And I was like, Taylor, I need models with hearing loss. Yeah. Because nobody had ever said, Hey, do you think that people with hearing loss want to see other people with hearing loss talking about the products? That makes sense. Um, and so you said, I do. And we did a cool campaign. It was beautiful, yeah. It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:24

I was so proud of you. You were so proud. That was a very synergistic, amazing way to work together.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:29

It was so fun. And I just think that that's, you know, it says like who you guys are. You're always supporting others. Any, I can call you anytime and say help. Yeah. And you've done that for me, and I will always do that for y'all too. But it's just, I'm so excited for the young artists that y'all are getting to help. And I say young because young in their career, right? Like age is just a number. But the ones that are trying to do this life, I think um, if you can help them in any way, and also just from the fact that you guys are doing this as a couple, because it's gotta be some extreme highs and lows in marriage too. When you're in the business. Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:04

It's at this point, it's the missing, missing him, missing time, missing moments with the kids when he's on the road. But we've kind of gotten a schedule down where, you know, if he's out Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, home by church on Sunday, that feels good. And if he's going to like overseas, then it's usually a week and a half or two weeks. But yeah, but we have a system. And we limit that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:23

To to keeping it to two weeks maximum. Yeah. Um, at least this year we started that. And it was just for sanity reasons, you have to do it that way. Um, because the kids need dad, mom needs dad, hopefully.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:38

Well, I think mom needs dad, dad needs mom. Dad definitely needs mom. We also there was in our earlier parts of marriage, it was so hard because we would compare what the other was doing, where it would be like, well, you know, you're playing to, or I'm taking care of the kids while you're out living your dream. And now it's like, no, that that's that's my dream too, is to be with the kids and to take, and now we're getting set up to our a place where we can travel with him and go see these experiences with him. And so it was there was definitely, I think every artist I've ever talked to's wife would say that the early years trying to balance and understand his work is hard, my work is hard, it's all hard, but we got to be a team, otherwise it's gonna fall apart. So that's been that was the number one. And like I think we got that mastered at like year six or seven.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

And now it's like we got this, and we're doing it together as a team.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:29

But such good advice to tell people because I remember talking to you earlier on when he was on the road because Josh was on the road, my brother-in-law was on the road with you. Yeah, and you know, us girls were at home hanging out with all the munchkins, and you guys were out having fancy steak dinners after shows.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

We're playing Nintendo, we're playing Nintendo at home with the babies. Mark brothers and they are eating functies.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:54

And I remember at one point you would like, we don't care about your steak. We don't care. Don't tell me.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:00

Um, and it's fun to see the Craig's like, I gotta go now.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:06

I'm sweating over here now. I didn't know we I didn't know I was gonna be in the hot seat over here.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:11

It's marriage therapy. It's marriage therapy. Um but actually I do, I think it's good. So I want y'all to tell, like, give some advice to the people that are in Nashville trying to do this as a couple, because I do think it can be hard on marriages, whether you're on the road as the artist, you're supporting the artist. Yeah. What's some good advice?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:26

You you go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:27

I will say for me, where we turned the corner was um I got it, we I'd met this person that uh gave me some advice on how to approach careers, life in general. And they brought us to the brought it to our attention as a couple of whiteboarding.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:51

And that right there for me was like our turning point.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:55

Okay, tell me about this. Maybe I need this too. Maybe this is just not couples only.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:58

Like it was for us, it was for financial, for uh marriage, for career, all of those are categories, and having this is what I want to achieve, and then being able to mark that down as you achieve those goals. And put and putting the small things, yeah. Like I want to take, you know, 10 minutes in the morning and read my Bible, to I want to be playing stadiums or whatever, you know, no matter what level it is, having those goal goals listed and being able to look at that every, you know, once a month and marking off those achievements. And we can pridefully say that I mean, and we had some very lofty goals down to being able to have going into a new home, and we did not see that happening in November. And in December, God opened the doors for us to be able to do that, and we weren't even looking for it at the time, but we had it on our on our list, and that was the last thing that we checked off. And had every single goal that we put down. And that's now been we've done this for for three years in a row, and it's it's life-changing.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:08

Yeah, I think it sets up a different way of communication for us in the beginning. We do it in the beginning of the year, so I guess it is goals, but it's also just you see each other's expectations and what you want from life, and we keep it in the year format for us. It's easy to put our heads heads around. But I just I then I go, okay, this is what we're trying to do. This is where his head's at. This is what the goal is, you know, this is what we're working our tails off for all the time. And I uh yeah, you can see I see into his brain, he sees into mine, and then it feels really good to mark him off and to move on to the next. But that's been humongous and yeah, FaceTime and FaceTime is key. FaceTime is great.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:43

Yeah, FaceTime is such a good invention. Oh, yeah. I don't even so cool. Um, so what's what's on the goal list this year? Anything you can share?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:53

Um, those one is getting this new album out, and um but we are gonna slow release, so we will do single by single this time.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:01

The album's hard, yeah. It takes yeah, it takes a minute to get it all together. So singles are coming.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:06

Well, you know, and also these days, I mean I I said this earlier this week, even I it's kind of like if you're Lainey Wilson, you can put an album out. Yeah, everybody else, I kind of like the slow release. Yeah, we're back to that with TV too, by the way, right? It's like week by week we get Landman. Yeah, and I'm kind of mad about it. I get really excited on everybody night.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:28

I get really excited.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:29

Outlander, come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:32

We need the next episode. Yeah, so it's kind of a good slow burn, and I like it. It takes us back to like that nostalgic time of having to wait for the good things. Yeah, patience in human beings is great.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

So the new album is on the phone. It's a big one. We've got yeah, uh, he wants to take the kids overseas, so we gotta get past five passports, ASAP. Yes, giving passports. We're working on that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:52

The reality show for this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:53

Oh, yeah, no, we gotta film that. Yeah, that will be something.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:56

For me, that's that was my uh approach. Having the opportunity to go overseas and share country music um was first and foremost a big dream to be able to do. But then finding the way to make that happen and then in turn to be able to get it to a point where I can take the family over there and experience other countries that they you know may have to wait until they're adults to be able to do.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:22

Finding a way to do that has been fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:25

Yeah, what a gift. Yeah. I mean, I think travel is it it expands our horizon. Inspiration when it comes to travel. You've done all this fun stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:33

Well, I I gotta go y'all to Dmark in Sweden. Go be the merch woman or the tour manager or whatever we need. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:41

Are you guys ready? Yeah, I mean, let's go meet some new artists. I love it. Well, I mean, I would sit here and talk all day, but you guys have an anniversary to enjoy together. We all should go do something fun. And for the rest of us, we're just gonna be playing rewind, rewind on She-Hon so we can get it. I'm so excited. It's so fun. Pre-save. Yes, pre-buy.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:04

And um You know, always I have to throw the shameless plug out there, shameless self-promotion for all things Craig Wayne Boyd. Go to craigwainboyd.com. From there, you can find me on all of the socials. If it's not me, it's her saying something.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:17

Yes, and I ask him first if it's and it's epic fun. Y'all are so much fun. And maybe we just need to plan a little y'all's um VIP event for CMA Fest. CMA Fest. So Okay, to be continued. To be continued.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:34

Okay, I love y'all so much.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:36

Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:37

Sometimes a girl's gotta find her way on her own, free to room, make mistakes.